Last night, a friend of mine excitedly passed me a business card. “Its for my new company,” he says (I lean in; start-ups, I love them, this could be good), “We make t-shirts!” (Oh no, oh no, oh no!) I say, “Oh great! I’ll check out the site, blah blah,” but what I’m really thinking is– oh, kill me now– because it seems like everywhere I turn there’s a new twenty-something with a new t-shirt company (see: two mediocre designs and an emo-sounding web address) and they all somehow all think that they’re a) SO FRESH and b) totally going to make it. I can’t take anymore. I love t-shirts, I write about how much I love them all the time, but I’ve just about had it with t-shirt craze and I think these “entrepreneurs” should seriously consider a change of focus. And yes, I realize this is a stupid thing to get all angsty about, but, hey, sometimes you’ve just got to bitch.

Yep, venting is healthy, which is why we are officially dedicating today’s Talk Shop Friday to The Things We Just Can’t Handle Anymore. Darling readers, we want to know what it is that’s been getting you down. Bad advertising? Over-priced hoodies? Too many/not enough American Idol re-runs? Anything goes: you can even say you’re jaded on ME (impossible, pumpkin — Ed.) This is an open forum and we just want to hear what you have to say about the ways in which the world is currently sucking. You probably won’t have the chance to get stuff off your chest with so much freedom for a long time after this, so come on! Get mad! Raarrr!


Heather Snodgrass Friday, 06.01.07 @ 12:52 pm

LOLcats. Seriously, stop already. It was funny the first six months, but it’s just getting stupid ridiculous now.

kthxbye.


Rob Friday, 06.01.07 @ 12:53 pm

Can I give you a big “Amen” from the congregation?!?!?
Five or six years ago, it was an accomplishment to find a tee with a great design or a cheeky little phrase on it…

Now, I buy plain t-shrits. All the start-ups have caused a grand homoginization of t-shirts.


HDW Friday, 06.01.07 @ 2:58 pm

I’m sitting here at my desk in my favorite t-shirt. It’s blue. That’s it, just blue. I’m so sick of every shirt around me saying something the author thought was profound with a design the the artist thought was “new and fresh”. They were both wrong more often than not.


mike luce Friday, 06.01.07 @ 3:23 pm

“Fixies”… refer to “my website” link on this comment to see a perfect example of what I’m talking about… expressed as a snarky Missed Connection in Chicago. Somebody out there feels the same way as I do, thank god…


Rob Friday, 06.01.07 @ 5:02 pm

Mike… that’s amazing! I do bike a lot (it beats LA traffic, saves gas and polar bears, and keeps me from getting old and fat), but the whole “fixie” thing is pretty retarded. I love whizzing past them going up a hill.


Nikki Friday, 06.01.07 @ 5:06 pm

Not only am I over the t-shirt craze, but also…..I am pissed at the prices for smaller “indie” designer’s products….From skin care to shoes!!! Loeffer Randall and Scorah Patullo should be ashamed of there 500 dollar price tags!!! AND!!! Why must designers tease us with limited addition collabos for affordable clothes…such as Victor & Rolf @ H&M and Phillip Lim @ Uniqlo, I want affordable cute clothes alll the time!!!UGHHH!!:)


B Starr Friday, 06.01.07 @ 5:13 pm

Same shit…different name. Whether it’s a t-shirt company, “Web 2.0″ site, or super-natural-organic-edible-ipod cover. I’m tired of people doing more of the same shit with a different name.


Jonathan Friday, 06.01.07 @ 5:17 pm

ok heres mine….apple..of course we all love apple, but cut us a little slack when we spend $400 on an ipod and drop/wash/dog chewed it/lost it/stolen…whatever… they need to implement a one time replcement for a small fee. S*** happens and $400 is a lot of money to most of us, especially when it really turns into $800 when you replace the damn thing.


Phuong-Cac Friday, 06.01.07 @ 7:08 pm

I’ll agree with everyone above, but let me throw in the high-price-limited-edition-scored-it-after-waiting-19.5-hours-in-line sneaker craze. Can it be over already? I’m kind of done with hearing about how so-and-so brand is collaborating with so-and-so. I’ll admit it, I’ve written about some of the special editions in the past, but OK, now I’m totally up for a plain-white, unbranded sneaker anytime.


H. Michael Karshis Friday, 06.01.07 @ 8:59 pm

I’m comfortable just saying No! to: lame, quasi-community websites, pirated and pirate movies, reality tv, tv in general, pussy beers, bogus pledge drive incentives, liars, idiotic herd mentality drive times/lunch times, hallmark holiday gift giving, slackers, wannabee designers and formumatic indie/rap/alternative/punk bands.

Oh, and almost clever and overly ornate t-shirts!

Tiki Bongo,

HMK


please be friendly Saturday, 06.02.07 @ 5:53 am

Like birds of a feather…

I too prefer plain t-shirts to graphic prints now. Even more hardline, I prefer plain WHITE or BLACK (or if I’m feeling swanky - pink). My problem is; too much to choose from, but nothing that grabs me. I read an article ages ago (at the time I thought it was high-brow elistist crap, but now I see where the author was coming from), which disputed using the term “designer” to describe people who re-produce a product with a slightly different twist (a removable cover, a glittery graphic, a superfluous button etc.). The author claimed “stylist” was a better description. It is a fair point. The article was especially critical of MEGA expensive Japanese brand “A Bathing Ape” and it’s ever present, self promoting overlord Nigo. When I think about it, he HAS branded stuff succesfully, very successfully (t-shirts, other apparel, cafes, hair salons), but he has never actually invented anything new.

I wish I was an actual, original, making a differnce designer (sigh)…


Krystal Saturday, 06.02.07 @ 5:19 pm

t-shirts…oh the pain. Unless someone were to make one about Skeeters Ms. Carmel, then (and only then) would I approve of a new artistic design. Other than that I prefer black, white, grey and anything else that comes in a 5 pack.


Carmel Saturday, 06.02.07 @ 5:49 pm

yep, mosquitoes are bitchezzz. okay, krys, let’s go into business


Gregg Sunday, 06.03.07 @ 9:40 am

All trendy, disposable, overpriced “deisgn-y” pieces of crap that obviously took little thought on the part of the designer. Oh, you’re all cool and design like, you’re changing the American marketplace! Guess what-it’s the same shit that’s been going on, just a different face-people flooding the market with crap we really don’t need, while every once in a while a rare gem will come through that is actually useful to us.

I heart shallow people.


JNP Sunday, 06.03.07 @ 1:42 pm

Out: T-shirt companies

In: Design portals/blogs/coolhunter rip-offs


Matt Sunday, 06.03.07 @ 4:51 pm

oh and regards to bape, I totally agree, which is why the torso label won’t be anywhere near our t-shirts.


Local Tree Child Monday, 06.04.07 @ 2:27 am

I am doing a t-shirt print that says: Design killed functionalism.


Brad Monday, 06.04.07 @ 9:04 am

I’m sick of the all-over pattern in “streetwear”, that shit is tired. And streetwear in general since it now costs $500 just to cover yourself, which makes it too expensive to actually wear on the street. Nuts to American Apparel for charging $72.00 for a pack of tees just so Dov Charney can afford to pay legal fees for jerking it in front of another employee. And I wish the art world would get over the paintings of big-eyed waifs. Its like everyone decided that making a painting of a twisted “Precious Moments” figurine was the best idea ever. The art world in general is slipping because there’s more money to be made from illustration and design, which encourages homogenization most of the time. Not to overly vilify any of the above industries, which have their trailblazers like any other, but stagnation comes from easy money and there seems to be a lot of suckers with cash in hand these days.


the artful dodger Monday, 06.04.07 @ 1:24 pm

you people are all idiots.

you know what is REALLY played out? Having a crappy job you hate because you didn’t have any creativity, skills, or ambition and surfing the web from said crappy job so you can disparage people who wanted to try their own hand at things. If you wanna make shirts make them, if you want to wait in line for shoes, wait in line.

the guy that wants free iPod replacements– you’re an idiot. It’s not that hard to buy something and then take care of it.

the “design killed fucntionalism” guy– you’re an idiot. Good design is functional.


alan Monday, 06.04.07 @ 1:38 pm

I find our obsession with the new irritating.


Miss Jessica Monday, 06.04.07 @ 4:06 pm

I’m with Carmel here. I attended a meeting for young professionals the other day and literally every other person voiced that they either wanted to or were starting a clothing/t-shirt company. Ugh! And I bet it’s got some precious little back story to go along with it, that makes it socially relevant or has some inspirational message. Number of revolutionary t-shirt lines have actually affected social change : 0. Number of t-shirt lines that fail within the first 2 years: 90 percent. Do the math people! And while we’re at it, realize that people like clothes because they look nice, not because you’ve sparked a political fire in their loins. GET OVER YOURSELVES! Jeez I sound bitter, but I’m telling the truth.


the artful dodger Monday, 06.04.07 @ 4:35 pm

jessica,
you should probably “get over yourself” since you are professing to people. people start clothing companies because it requires little capital and are low financial risks. in general, a high ratio of new business aren’t successful– not just clothing copanies. does that mean you shouldn’t try? no.

idot #3


SDY Monday, 06.04.07 @ 5:37 pm

I can agree with the people on T-shirt lines or just clothing period, people don’t realize that to become a real designer you have to create for years ahead and your designs has to be to a T in order to work, financially as well, but the people don’t understand that if you cannot produce (25) pieces or (50) as a collection then don’t do it think harder and wizer, printed Hoodies are getting to be too much, everyone who wears them looks like fuckin clowns, no disrespect to anyone but it’s time to dress a little more mature, denim is Ok to pass on but kicks that I Love to death…. Prices People Prices, I live in So Cal where shit is not cheap meaning rent, car notes, and bills in general are hard to deal with as is and now your telling me that some fuckin kicks are competing with my car note…get the fuck out of here with that, White Tees and Smoove Kicks that don’t cost a fortune are cool with me and a track jacket is alright in my book


Local Tree Child Tuesday, 06.05.07 @ 2:58 am

But T.A.D calling everyone an idiot is so lame.

Even more lame is having the nick of a group that hasn’t done anything remotely interesting in the last five years or so and calling everyone that is a bit fed up with way things are done right now an idiot.

Apparently we hit a soft spot.

As for the discussion I think I agree with the BAPE-post. Mostly the so called “designer stuff” is really just the same old, same old in a new packaging. I really can’t see that stuff being about creativity and bringing new light on things, it is more your average-designer thing to do. Something everyone has on their CV. But hey maybe it is like rap it need to be saved from death at least once a year.


Jason Tuesday, 06.05.07 @ 8:41 am

1. Obtain object.
2. Add fleur-de-lis, leaves, etc.

Instant designer anything!


the artful dodger Tuesday, 06.05.07 @ 5:03 pm

the artful dodger is a character from Dickens

idiot #4


Local Tree Child Thursday, 06.07.07 @ 3:43 pm

My apologizes then, but judging from the post above I deemed you to be quite illiterate.




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